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Tire balancing beads

Post by stroker97k1500 »

I have 33x12.50x15 tires and they are imbalanced to say the least.... The whole cab vibrates/shimmies.
Has anyone here tried the beads you put into the tires to balance them and had any good results?
I have been reading that 8oz per tire/wheel is a starting point and I can even use the air soft bbs from Walmart as a substitute.

I have never tried this and am willing to do about anything to remedy the cab twisting shimmy that I have above 55mph.
I trust the judgement of the guys on here and wanted to ask first.
Btw I have dick cepek wheels and 50% Mickey Thompson tires

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On another forum there are guys that swear by these with their ram 3500's with high lift and big tires. They use the ones sold for this, not the plastic soft BB's. Something about they don't last as well IIRC. They should work based on all I've read. Never anything bad about them UNLESS you tire pressure monitoring inside the wheel...

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Post by Speeder »

Never heard of them. However, might have the tire shop rotate the tire on the wheel by a quarter or so, and ask for a split weight balance where instead of hanging all the weight in one place the machine splits the weight into two smaller points.

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Post by 97k15004wd »

Right here:

http://innovativebalancing.com/

This is the brand the guys on the truck forum use..

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Post by CrazyHoe »

I understand how this would work to change the harmonic vibration of a rotating cylinder. We have that in machining.

I don't understand how something out of round would work with this.

In my head, it seams this would make things worst.


So if this does work, you would put a wheel (filled with beads) on a balancing machine.
And it would read perfectly balanced.

If so, wouldn't a liquid do the same?

Say viscous silicone oil?

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Post by 97k15004wd »

CrazyHoe wrote:If so, wouldn't a liquid do the same? Say viscous silicone oil?
Maybe even some "green goo" tire sealer would work - depending on how much it weighs....

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Post by CrazyHoe »

97k15004wd wrote:
CrazyHoe wrote:If so, wouldn't a liquid do the same? Say viscous silicone oil?
Maybe even some "green goo" tire sealer would work - depending on how much it weighs....
Protects Balance: True Goo acts as a good balancing fluid. The low viscosity of True Goo has been engineered to put it in the "Sweet Spot" for tire balancing (if True Goo were thinner it would not balance tires as well, and conversely, if True Goo were thicker it would not balance tires as remarkably as it does). The thin film of True goo that coats the inside of the tire dynamically adjusts to balance the tire as the tire rolls.
http://truegoo.com/

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Farmer Style is funny at the end there; "hey, hey, hey!!" as the kid is banging on some metal.....

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He's using that strobe light to stop the tire! Must not be his.....

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Post by Whipped383 »

My boss used some of the old school sand in a bag. Seemed to balance just fine but when he broke the tires down to rotate them (dually) the sand was embedded in the rubber. That's the only experience I have with any of this stuff

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Post by CrazyHoe »

If you jack up the truck and spin the tire.

Can you see a visible wobble?

This is a good read:

http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/ ... ing-tires/

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Post by Speeder »

If you really want to solve the issue call the local tire shops and ask them if they have a Hunter dynamic load balancing machine. This is a wheel balancing machine that has an arm with a roller on it that presses against the tire while it spins and it will be able to tell if the tire is made badly, or of the wheel is bent. If so, they will be your best bet to solve the problem. Sorry I didn't mention this before but it's been years since I had to work on this sort of issue and I forgot that they existed.

One other thing, are the wheels hub centric if not stock? If not, could be the issue. Running smooth before is not an indication that this isn't a problem, if the wheels happened to be mounted dead center before. Another possibility, is if the tire shop that put them on didn't tighten the wheels in stages, in a star pattern. If they just slapped them on then torqued the lugs down to max going around in a circle, which is the fastest way to do it for a lazy guy who doesn't care about his work, you can get a vibration out of it.

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Speeder wrote:If you really want to solve the issue call the local tire shops and ask them if they have a Hunter dynamic load balancing machine. w
Wow seriously

https://youtu.be/efhgM2TcQpI

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Post by HAYWIRE »

Balancing beads and sand both work but there can't be any moisture in the air inside the tire as it acts like glue to the beads/sand. I prefer to us plain old antifreeze and water about 8oz worth. Mix it for your climate so it won't freeze in winter. Been a tire guy for 28yrs and own my own shop just break 1 bead pour it in and reseat bead. ....simple
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Re: Tire balancing beads

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Haywire,

Are those street tires used on the highway?

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